Saturday, May 16, 2020

Aster and LGB GG 1 # 23835, 24835, 24837

By 2005 LGB knew that chances of survival were getting slim. Short-time-work (state regulated system of compensation for work-sharing if not enough work is generated by regular market activity) was requested by and granted to LGB. Increasing sales volume, no matter how short run, murky or even imaginary, was prime target. The Aster-LGB cooperation was put on stress test. Four (4!) engines were ordered by LGB and made by Aster in 2005. Three of them, the GG 1's below, were never cataloged.

Deducing from the minimal edition volume they were exclusively made either for one US-dealer or for LGBoA top brass feeding only their most exclusive customer base. However, over the last decade some of these rare engines resurfaced in England and in Germany.
Aster/LGB # 23835 - Courtesy of ebay.com

Aster/LGB # 24835 - Courtesy of Only Trains

Aster/LGB # 24837 - Courtesy of champex-linden.de

The fourth engine made that year was the Tssd Mallet and will be reported on in our conclusion to this Aster/LGB blog.

As already mentioned, there was absolutely no adverting nor any mentioning to any regular customer about these locos. They were made for and sold to a selected few. Price wise only guesses are possible.
The Aster/LGB # 23835  GG 1 PRR 4872 had an edition volume of 79 engines, came in the wooden box with individual numbered plates (as before) and the 'official' price was published as EU 3,999.00. Chances are that the price received by whoever sold it on the American market was somewhere in the neighborhood of $ 5,900.00 and above.
The Aster/LGB # 24835 GG 1 Amtrak 927 had an edition volume of 79 as well, came again in the known wooden box and was given the same official price as the PRR above, EU 3,999.00. And here as well the fair assumption goes to roughly a requested price of about US$ 6,000.00 - maybe more.

The Aster LGB # 24837 GG 1 Conrail 4800 had the unfathomable small edition of 30 (thirty). At least Aster just had to do another paint job...The Conrail GG1 also came in the known wooden box and the 'official' price was again EU 3,999.00. It is anybody's guess what the US-dealer then actually did ask his customers to pay.

All three locos came with sound and the PRR 4872 featured that of "The Congressional".

The archetypes are: The GG 1 PRR No 4872 was originally built in 1939 for the PRR in the original coloring Brunswick green. In 1955 three GG 1 locomotives, the 4872 among them were painted silver with an 8" wide red band thus abandoning the stripes from earlier. Also a large keystone with white PRR monogram on both sides and one small keystone on noses with locomotive number. The No 4872 was used on "The Congressional" and Senator trains through the mid seventy's
Fun fact: the  4872 together with 4866, and 4880 were later re-repainted  to Brunswick green with standard livery.
The 4872 was scraped, maybe before 1981.

The GG 1 Amtrak No 927 started life as PRR 4934 but was transferred to Amtrak in 1971 when it became No 927. The Amtrak painting was put on in the mid 1970's.
Fun Fact: the Amtrak 927 was later renumbered to  4927 and survived at the Illinois Railway Museum in Union. She has been stored indoors and received another paint job back to Brunswick green (which an almost all photos has a black hue to it).

Conrail GG 1 -
courtesy of https://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=90285
The Conrail GG 1 4800 (quote from https://www.steamlocomotive.com/GG1/):" is the only GG1 with a riveted body. It was the prototype for the GG 1 and became the Bi-Centennial GG1 Engine in 1976. Old "Rivets" wore Conrail "dress blue" (Railroading in the North East Collection). 4800 was owned by the Lancaster Chapter of the NRHS and at one time was on loan to the RR Museum of PA. The chapter donated it to the RR Museum of PA in 2000. For a couple years, 4800 was out in the weather and was showing signs of deterioration. In 2002 it was moved into the expanded car barn. In 2004 it received a new paint job and underwent some cosmetic restoration. All lettering has been painted over sometime in the mid-2000's. In 2009 it was moved outside again."

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Saturday, May 9, 2020

Aster and LGB #24832 + #23832 GG 1

In 2004 the Aster and LGB cooperation continued with the absolutely wonderful GG 1. Although a standard gauge loco for the otherwise narrow gauge oriented LGB Aster built a beautiful brass model charming the American LGB customer with this historic engine:
Aster LGB 24832 - Courtesy Only Trains (historic)
She came in the wooden box, with Styrofoam box and brochures. The wooden box carried the metal plate with the loco type(GG 1) and the individual loco number:
# 24832 in box - courtesy of worthpoint.com
Edition volume was low with 250 engines in the PRR red-brown colors. And the main market was the American customer. Price wise the loco was probably advertised/announced at/around US$ 5,000.00. It was one BIG engine. And the first non-steam engine for Aster to build. But Aster was used to small edition volumes and got a little break by reusing tools and 'molds' for the sister engines # 23832, 23835 and 24835 (see future blogs).
Advertising was actually existing for this loco namely in the LGBoA brochure "LGB INFO 2004" and in the "2004 eXtra" brochure. As can be seen in the above photo image, LGB advertised both GG 1 types in the same manual even though the greenish GG 1 PRR LGB # 23832 was scheduled to be presented to the market about a year later. Hindsight, it is not clear when both engines actually hit the American market/ customer. They might very well have been out for delivery at about the same time, in the end.
LGB 23832 - Courtesy of ebay.com/https://www.ebay.com/c/899817954
Edition volume here was also 250. The # 23832 above is at the time of writing (May 07 2020) available on ebay from England for US$ 3,656.00 plus ship. It is hard to tell if that is a good price since there is no way of telling what the condition of the loco is and how it will be shipped. Aster/LGB all brass locos, all hand made (more or less) are by design tough to ship and to arrive in top shape. But there are also some very good shippers out there.

The archetype is the PRR GG 1, a class of electric locomotives built by General Electric and Altoona Works for the PRR in the mid 1930's. All in all 139 GG 1 were built between 1934 and 1943. By the end of the 1980's all were scrapped but 16 are in museums.
GG 1 4868 pulls The Congressional - Courtesy of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Railroad_class_GG1
Their then new design and electrical power drive made them fast with speeds of up to 100 mph.
Fun fact 1: "In operation the leading pantograph was usually kept lowered and the trailing raised to collect current, since if the rear pantograph failed it would not strike the forward pantograph" (quote fromhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Railroad_class_GG1) That was smart engineering. And often, in advertising the model loco, you will see one pantograph erected while the other is lowered.
The archetype for the # 24832, the "4877" was restored to its 1930's paint scheme with stripes and is now on display at the United Railroad Historical Society of New Jersey
GG 1 4877  - Courtesy of 'Collection of Thomas C Avers"

The Aster/LGB # 23832 archetype No.  4935 is on display at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania in Strasburg/PA
GG 1 No 4935 - Courtesy of https://rrmuseumpa.org/collections/roster/
Fun Fact 2: The crews of the No 4935 nicknamed her "Blackjack" since the sum of 4935 result in "21".

Much beloved until today the GG 1 not only made a number of appearances in modern pop culture, movies and lately video games - it also made history in her own era: (quoted from  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Railroad_class_GG1--edited for easy reading)

On January 15, 1953, train 173, the overnight Federal from Boston, was approaching Washington behind GG1 4876. The train passed a signal 2.1 miles (3.4 km) north of Union Station between 60 and 70 miles per hour ..., and the engineer decreased the throttle and started applying the brakes.When the engineer realized that the train was not slowing down, and applying the emergency brake had no effect, he sounded the engine's horn. A signalman, hearing the horn and noting the speed of the 4876, phoned ahead to the station master's office. 4876 negotiated several switches without derailing, at speeds well over the safe speed limits and entered the station at around 35 to 40 miles per hour. The train demolished the bumping post, continued through the station master's office and into the concourse where it fell through the floor into the station's basement. Thanks to the evacuation of the concourse, there were no fatalities in the station, or aboard the train. A temporary floor was erected over the engine, and the hole it created, for the inauguration of President Dwight D. Eisenhower. 4876 was eventually dismantled, removed from the basement and reassembled in Altoona. It survives in the B&O Railroad Museum in Baltimore.

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Saturday, May 2, 2020

Aster and LGB - # 22832 Mallet

LGB had built their first Mallet (0-6-6-0) in 1982

LGB 2085D - Courtesy LGB Kompendium




and Aster had built their first Mallett brass live-steam loco (0-8-0+0-8-0T) in 1989.
Aster Mallet - Courtesy of  southernsteamtrains.com














LGB announced the new Aster/LGB engine in 2003 with delivery in 2004. Aster delivered on time and the new LGB # 22832 was another very fine example of brass craftsmanship:
LGB 22832 - Courtesy of marketplace.trainzauctions.com
The edition volume for the loco was 500, one hundred less than the previous Aster/LGB engines. The price was about US$ 5,000.00. The loco came in the well known Aster wooden box with individually numbered boxes.

Fun fact:Klaus Baumann, LGB VP Marketing/Sales had utilized his excellent network relations to convince the Oechsle Bahn Museum to grant LGB the rights to model the DB 99 633 as a brass loco in cooperation with Aster. What a genius move. Klaus Baumann retired in April 2003 with a legacy unrivaled...
Advertising:
By mid 2003 LGB had implemented their eXtra Premium program in Germany; the ill-fated measure that frustrated and angered dealers and customers on different levels. What better idea than to promote the new Aster LGB Mallet right in this marketing project... The eXtra Premium program was this: the (German) dealer had to invest a big chunk of his own money into a computer to be installed in his retail store so the customer could order from this computer an eXtra-Premium LGB item that - so the promise to the dealer - no non-member-customer could order. Well, you wished. Any customer just needed to call LGB directly and could order whatever he wanted, eXtra or not. LGB top management had simply shot themselves into their own foot. Twice. They had forced these dealers to buy the computer and installations for big money or be thrown out as an LGB dealer and at the same time allowed any customer and smaller dealer to order what their hearts desire from LGB directly no matter what product. Mind you, there were no discounts involved in this program. Every product would cost the same no matter through which channel it was bought. The eXtra- Premium translated to extra money for premium-be taken... As you can imagine....LGB management lost a lot of trust with their (German) dealers.

The American customer was spared such a nonsense and for good reason. For the US market this program simply didn't make any sense. The US customer called in his orders. Had done so for years. The dealers would then order by computer anyway. Computer use and -technology was already used on another level than in Germany. And US dealers knew which of their customers wanted an Aster/LGB model and called them early to secure orders and delivery.
And with a price of US$ 5,000.00 (or Euro 3,000.00) this was for a chosen clientele anyway.


Railroad Romance episode opener - Courtesy of SWF 3 on youtube
The archetype: The Aster/LGB # 22832 is a 0-4-4-0 and a (model) replica of the DB 99 633 Oechsle RR, one of the best known locomotives on German television due to the opener of the  beloved long running TV series "Eisenbahn Romantik" (Railroad Romance)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25RRj569bxA). It is  accompanied by an instrumental version of "Sentimental Journey"
The actual DB 99 633 is a true narrow gauge loco, built by the German "Maschinenfabrik Esslingen" (engineering works Esslingen) between 1899 and 1901. The MF Esslingen had designed the tssd Mallet herself focusing on narrow gauge requirements to haul passengers and freight, ore and wood on steep hilly terrain with narrow curves. The loco was built to fit on 750mm gauge (29.5 inch). The  99 633 was in operation at Ochsenhausen RR / southern Germany from 1900 until 1985 when she was retired to the Oechsle Museum RR. There she was in operation until 1990 when she was involved in a car accident. After that she lay dormant in a loco shed at the museum ... -- Restoration project for the 99 633 started in 2002. It took copious amounts of money, overcoming of changing traffic and engineering European laws and an extreme stubborn will of the people involved to rebuilt the engine more or less from scratch.
assembling had begun again - Courtesy of oechsle-bahn.de
Eventually in November 2014, 12 years of never ending, relentless work and will the DB 99 633 was  under steam, again. Official commissioning was April 2015 at the Oechsle Museums RR
Commissioning of the completely restored DB 99 633 - Courtesy of oechsle-bahn.de 

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Saturday, April 25, 2020

Aster and LGB - # 21832

In 2000 LGB had started the Mikado project in Nuremberg. It took Gunter Ruhland, head mold master, quite some time to finalize the molds for the Mikado. It was a complicated design fraught with operational failure. For more information on this matter please revisit our Mikado blogs from January of 2014 and November of  2012.

Sometime during the design and creation phase Aster was contacted. They had already built 3 Mikado models all live steam and in brass; the first, the SNCF 141R already in 1979. And while LGB Nuremberg and Gunter Ruhland were still working hard on their first Mikado edition Aster had built the Aster/LGB Mikado in brass with the regular electrical motor within a year to be ready for sale in 2002. The same year LGB would present their Mikado # 20872.

The Aster/LGB Mikado made its debut as the White Pass Mikado No 73 in all black with red cab door and red cab window frames and a silver smoke chamber.
Aster/LGB # 21832 - courtesy of Only Trains
The Aster Mikado was equipped with sound and smoke (generator) and some engines came with a factory installed MTS decoder for digital operation but could operate analog as well. The overall edition volume was again 600 and as usual it came in a wooden box with the loco being secured in Styrofoam within the box.
As you can see in this close up:
Aster # 21832 loco - courtesy of brasstrains.com 
by design the model-loco 4 axles make the loco somewhat unresponsive to tighter curves. LGB curves R1 and R2 were tough to handle for the Aster Mikado since Aster was used to operate their live steam models on much wider curves than LGB track offered. This was no Aster fault. There was simply little communication from LGB (top management) to Aster regarding operational differences and track requirements.....

Fun Fact: if you would precision scale original track curves that Mikado locos operated through to the LGB scale this curve would run halfway around the outside of your house.

Ad-wise - you guessed right - almost nothing. LGB published 18 catalogs and brochures in 2002 including two major catalogs for LGBoA: a main catalog 2002(156 pages) and a 68 page catalog "LGB of America Info 2002". Plenty of space to advertise the Aster Mikado.... you'd think. Looky here............now.....
LGB 21832 ad in LGBoA Info 2002, page 23
Shown was a photo of the prototype. All the while, 5 pages earlier, all(!!) (future) LGB Mikados were presented. Mind you, nothing was in production yet but the # 20872 and no hand models were available either. (More on that subject on a future blog about the LGB Mikado). So photo shop images were used.
Not even that little love was shown on the Aster Mikado


The archetype is the White Pass Mikado No 73 custom built by Baldwin for the White Pass & Yukon Route in 1947 and was operated by the Yukon RR until 1964. To quote Wikipedia :" After retirement
The Mikado No 73 restored on the WP&Y RR - Courtesy of the WP & Y RR website

on June 30, 1964, the locomotive was moved to Bennett, British Columbia, in 1968 for display. In 1979 the locomotive was moved again to Whitehorse, Yukon, this time to be restored. Restoration was completed in 1982 and the locomotive has been back in service since then ".

 And proof was about to be in the pudding. Your very own Famous Klaus was in Skagway in 1989 visiting the WP&Y RR  for sound recordings for the  WP&Y RR  LGB 2055 (see our earlier blog) and making friends for a lifetime. Among his cherished moments were coming across the winterized  No. 73 and taking a slew of photos to capture history.
Mikado No 73 winterized in Skagway in 1989 - copyright Klaus Stork
Today, tourists, rail fans, train enthusiasts and Yukon lovers can enjoy a train ride throughout the (summer) season:

Mikado No 73 in operation on the White Pass & Yukon Route o Courtesy of the WP & Y RR website

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Saturday, April 18, 2020

Aster and LGB - # 20922

The next Aster/LGB model was presented in 2001, the Aster NGG13 Garratt steam loco:

LGB 20922 - Courtesy of brasstrains.com
As before, the brass loco came in a wooden box, all engines/boxes were individually numbered. Packaging was (dual) LGB Styrofoam box in wooden box
LGB 20922 original packaging - Courtesy of Only Trains
Edition volume was 600 of which some were outfitted with (LGB factory installed) digital decoders. This Garratt came wonderfully equipped with (quoting Only Trains website)
Features:
Limited Run - Serial #116 / 600 - C.O.A. Included
Brass Construction
Factory Painted
Complete Cab Interior and individual gauges, valves and levers
Detailed boiler, with authentic domes, piping and handrails
2 seven-pole Buhler motors
Twelve powered wheels
Smoke Generator
Simulated Fire-box fire
Automatic directional front and rear lights
Cab Interior Lighting
Digital Electronic Sounds: synchronized steam chuffs, bell, whistle, brake, steam release, conductor announcement, etc.
Removable coal load
Length: 787mm (31 inches)
Weight: 6300grams (13.8 Lbs)
Information Booklet included
Spare Parts, Couplers, Track Magnets, Smoke Oil all included
Original Wooden Box and Packing Included

The initial price at time of first sale was US$ 3,000.00 (estimated), German DM 5,999.00 and US$ 3,300.00(?) for the digital version. But the US market would soon find the loco so attractive that prices would surge up to US$ 4,500.00. The price would stay high throughout the years.

Surprisingly the LGB advertising for this beautiful engine was again dismal. Besides being presented in the main catalog 2001, pg 79 the only other mentioning was in the "INFO 2001" LGBoA edition. Repeating last year's (2000) mindless 'advertising'  LGB lost the 20922 NGG 13 Garratt  on page 2 of 4 brochure pages :


page 2 of 4 INFO 2001 brochure - "Find the Garratt...."
The archetype to this engine was the Garrat NG G13 of the Schinznach Nursery RR (Schinznacher Baumschulbahn) in Switzerland
Garratt NG G13 - Courtesy of the "Verein Schinznacher Baumschul Bahn"
The Schinznach Nursery RR bought the NG G13 No. 60 from the (successor?) South African Railways in the 1980's. Though it had to be repaired/restored the engine was still operational. As of 2017 the "Drakensberg" is on loan to the Vale of Rheidol Railway in Wales/England and will again be in service.
The NG G 13 No 60 in Wales
Courtesy of http://www.cambrian-news.co.uk/

Originally built in 1927 by the German company HANOMAG for the South African Railway, the Garratt was always built for 600mm narrow gauge - first to haul fruit and cane (sugar) from fields later replaced by Diesel locos. Her engineering design made it possible to work through very tight curves, up to 3% gradients/slopes all the while carrying very heavy loads. Even though the British had the patent on the (Beyer) Garratt South Africa had no inkling to have the British benefit from loco orders after the Boer wars and hence contracted with HANOMAG which changed the British design to the extent that operation tolerated narrow, tight and steep tracks and very heavy loads. But that came at the expense of the engineer and stoker. The cabins were small and eerily overheated by steam turret, vacuum brake ejector and sight-feed lubricator placed inside the cabin. The men sat on movable pin stools so it became a common sight to see a Garratt with their engineers hanging outside the cabins.....

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Saturday, April 11, 2020

Aster and LGB - # 20542

The year 2000 brought another Aster/LGB engine. Aster again excelled in manufacturing/ hand-assembling a complete brass locomotive model, this time the Aster Hudson NYC.

LGB Aster 20542 - Courtesy of ebay.com

The engine was first advertised on page 2 of the " LGB INFO 2000" literally drowning in a deluge of new LGB engines and cars..................

LGB INFO 2000, page 2 upper portion

LGB INFO 2000 - page 2 lower portion
Hiding among 43(!) new engines and cars finding the Aster Hudson was more of a puzzle game than real marketing. And it will remain another puzzle why LGB didn't see fit to give the Aster Hudson some real advertising at all. Other than in the 2000-catalog (page 101) there was no mention of this new beauty. The edition volume was again 600 out of which some would sport a digital decoder. Obviously LGB had second thoughts about selling all engines manufactured. Nonetheless LGB installed analog sound in all but those with digital sound (LGB # 20542.8). The Hudson NYC sports the engine number "5405".

(While YT is writing this, your Famous Klaus is testing the just programmed new ESU decoder he installed into an ABA F7  unit : custom sound editing the decoder. My dear man.... YT ears are buzzing with the ROARING SOUND of an F7 of majestic proportions.... was the office relocated to the RR yard and nobody told me..?)

LGB had again decided to have each wooden box individually numbered. The price tag was around US$ 3,600.00 and about US$ 4,000.00 for the digital sound version. Today's value hovers around the same price but be vigilant; if you'd like to buy an Astor/LGB NYC Hudson today check carefully if all parts are intact and present. LGB/Aster or LGB service blow-ups are NOT available for any Aster/LGB loco. LGB never offered them and neither did Aster.

Currently (April 2020) a German company for model trains had 20 LGB/Aster 20542 assembled by a supply craftsman shop that utilized original Aster/LGB Hudson brass/metal parts. These engines are outfitted with a digital sound and a digital pulsed smoker, the price tag is Euro 2,999.00 plus shipping (about US$ 3,300.00)
https://www.modell-land.de/5405-hudson-dampflok-zimo-digital-20542-aster-p-19010.html

The archetype for the # 20542 is of course the 4-6-4 NYC Hudson, built after 1927 as one of the most powerful steam engines ever built before being replaced by Diesel engines. The archetype is a J-3 class engine built by ALCO. Wikipedia gives this information:


non-streamlined J-1 class New York Central  Hudson # 5249
(see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Central_Hudson):"The New York Central Hudsons were a series of 4-6-4 "Hudson" type steam locomotives built by the American Locomotive Company and the Lima Locomotive Works from 1927 to 1938 for the New York Central Railroad. Named after the Hudson River, the 4-6-4 wheel arrangement came to be known as the "Hudson" type in the United States as these locomotives were the first examples built and used in North America. Built for high-speed passenger train work, the Hudson locomotives were famously known for hauling the New York Central's crack passenger trains, such as the 20th Century Limited and the Empire State Express. With the onset of diesel locomotives in the mid 20th Century, all Hudson locomotives were retired and subsequently scrapped, with none preserved." 

Fun fact: later versions like the streamlined Hudson 20th Century Limited gave birth to the phrase "red carpet treatment" since their passengers walked to the train on a specially designed crimson carpet.
Streamlined Hudson 20th Century Limited, promotional photo
Courtesy of Wikipedia
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Saturday, April 4, 2020

Aster and LGB - # 20811

A member of the 99 7234 family - Courtesy of HSB.de
For the next cooperation with Aster it took only a year (after the LGB/Aster # 20831) to introduce the Harz Narrow Gauge RR/Germany. The HSB 99-7243-1; LGB # 20811 was presented in 1999.

The archetype HSB 99 72431- a 5-axle 2-10-2 loco- was built between 1954 and 1956 by the East German Railroad (Communism regime) as one of 17 locomotives, all for narrow gauge 1 meter (3 ft 3 3/8 in). By 1993 all 17 locomotives were taken over by the HSB RR, Brockenbahn, by now the unified Germany. All 17 engines are still existing today and the HSB 99 7243-1 is one of the few still operational.

LGB was celebrating their 30th anniversary in 1998 when  planing/ construction for the LGB 20811 started. They wanted something special. First, the model is and was truly a German narrow gauge engine. The Brocken RR is located in the heart of Germany and entertwined by history, fairy tales, folklore and classic literature. The Brocken RR is a true tourist attraction in one of the most beautiful areas in Germany and offers true narrow gauge experience of eras gone by.                                                                                                                                           
The Brocken  RR and a 99734-1 - Courtesy of oberharz.de
Germany was about to celebrate its 10 year anniversary of unification (1989 to 1999) and what better type to choose than the HSB 99 7243 as a loco to honor both celebrations, 30 years LGB and 10 years of unification.
BUT -- LGB had to advertise this new all-metal Aster/LGB loco before they even had a hand model.... They had to come up with something...even though nobody had thought about production volume or advertising....
From the 1999 New Items brochure
So they took to the archetype, photographed it and now had to come up with an edition number. LGB still had some of the previous Aster models left, some of the LGB 20821 as well as of the # 20831. But they also had the new digital system to sell and some Aster/LGB 20811 models were meant to have this new sound/digital system. Hence they printed :"Production 600 pieces."

By the time LGB/Aster was getting ready for production things had ripened a bit. Since the catalog/brochure printing LGB thought of something very special: To have each and every Aster/LGB loco given their own individual number. The edition volume of the LGB 20811 was 800. And each loco would have their own number starting from 101 through 900:
LGB 20811 here shown # 707 - Courtesy of Only Trains
LGB had also just introduced their digital system MTS (Multi Train System) and a little later offered another 300 LGB # 20811 engines with a digital decoder under the number LGB # 20811.8. As before the engines were sold in a wooden box which this time also carried the individual loco number on a brass plate in front of the box
LGB 20811 packaging - Courtesy of Only Trains

The LGB 20811 sold for US$ 3,000.00 to 3,500.00 in 1999 and currently several engines, also digital, are for sale offered between US$ 3,300.00 and 4,300.00.
LGB 20811 No 682 - Courtesy of Only Trains
Then there is another 'anomaly': 4 LGB 20811 were gold plated by LGB. YT has a hunch that they were made for just one dealer in the USA. Today one such engine is left and for sale by Gold Coast Station/CA for US $ 15.000.00
Gold plated  LGB 20811 at Gold Coast Station, currently offered for US$ 15,000.00
(as of  April  2020)
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